Preserving the dignity of the romanized white supremacists women.
United Nations Human Rights Committee, which has said that “polygamy violates the dignity of women,” called for it to “be definitely abolished wherever it continues to exist.”
One size fits all is the romanized white supremacists group of people (America, Europe, Australia, UK and all them places) idea of equality and while doing, so they deprive the freedom of others outside their view point. (Pretty much all other groups of people on the face of the earth for all time.)
To preserve the dignity of their women they should also being eating the same food size portions as that is also one size fits all equally treatment. Would the women have as much dignity as their men when men do that ?.
I think these romanized white supremacists people including lawmakers forget that God made all people the same in some way and yet different, you know some bigger some smaller, some who want more women than others, some who eat bigger portions of food and some smaller…you know some people are okay with more and some less.
Does anyone understand how a American is allowed to have more than 1 car/truck/boat, more than 1 house, more than 1 job, own more than 1 business yet only allowed 1 wife ?
If you think the Roman white supremacists movement on earth idea of love and freedom is correct then you have a issue with the bible itself which is pro polygyny, yet somehow in their own culture they believe a man can have just one wife as being the only moral lifestyle.
And of course their dignity and legal freedom is at the cost of everyone else on earth.
While pro polygyny laws would not stop the rights of those who abide by Monogamy views such as the Roman Catholic organization. Forced anti polygyny laws stop the rights of others. Which is biased and discriminating against people outside the Roman Catholic Organization and white(European) supremacy movement across the globe.
“The Roman Catholic Church considers the practice to be an offense against the dignity of marriage and in opposition to the religion’s moral values.The Council of Trent was held in several sessions from 1545 to 1563“
“I am responding on behalf of Bishop Soto. Thank you for your email regarding monogamy and polygamy.
Catholic tradition has consistently interpreted Christ’s teaching as absolutely forbidding polygamy, and the prohibition was defined by the Council of Trent, pronouncing anathema against anyone who says that “it is lawful for Christians to have several wives at the same time, and that it is not forbidden by any divine law” (Denzinger 1802).
Respectfully,
Uli Schmitt
Director
Office of Clergy Coordination and Formation
Catholic Diocese of Sacramento
Tel.: 916-733-0245
Fax: 916-733-0215
Email: uschmitt@scd.org “
(Grover Cleveland, Born to a Presbyterian minister and his wife)
In President Grover Cleveland’s annual address to Congress in December 1885, he emotionally discussed the issue of polygamy in Utah:
The strength, the perpetuity, and the destiny of the nation rest upon our homes, established by the law of God, guarded by parental care, regulated by parental authority, and sanctified by parental love.
These are not the homes of polygamy. . . .
There is no feature of this practice or the system which sanctions it which is not opposed to all that is of value in our institutions.
There should be no relaxation in the firm but just execution of the law now in operation, and I should be glad to approve such further discreet legislation as will rid the country of this blot upon its fair fame.
Since the people upholding polygamy in our Territories are reenforced by immigration from other lands, I recommend that a law be passed to prevent the importation of Mormons into the country.
The Act was passed by the Senate in January 1886 by a vote of 38–7. It was passed by the House via a voice vote in January 1887. President Cleveland refused to sign the bill but did not veto it, which meant that the Act became law on March 3, 1887.
- You desire food after a five-day fast—that’s a normal desire.
- You’ve eaten five pieces of cake. You know you shouldn’t eat more, but you desire more—this is a lust.
Was it really a few bad apples ? Well seems like they spoiled the barrel. Even today 2023 a lot of romanized white supremacists still claim Jesus but of course not follow the bible…you know where polygyny is allowed in both Old and New Testament books… Yes people A bible where polygyny is never listed as a sin and never rebuked as wrong by any in the entire books. And a bible where is never says for the dignity of women and women’s free choice is to follow the European people with the United Nations Human Rights Committee, which has said that “polygamy violates the dignity of women,” called for it to “be definitely abolished wherever it continues to exist.”
-If you have been taught forced monogamy is from the bible and Jesus(new covenant) changed things, you may wish to educate yourself with truth.
The links included in this email show this with Hebrew/Greek to prove this truth.
Each marriage is a separate bond – contract and the Bible does not limit to 1
INFORMATION.
https://biblicalfamilies.org/resources/biblical/common-objections
Biblical Polygyny (part 1): Definition of Words
Biblical Polygyny (part 2): Polygyny in Scripture
Biblical Polygyny (part 3): Marriage, Divorce and Remarriage
Biblical Polygyny (part 4): Common Objections to Polygyny
Biblical Polygyny (part 5): Clash of Cultures
An Open Letter to the Christian Church Regarding Polygyny
https://www.righteouswarriors.com/questions/q10.html
https://www.righteouswarriors.com/questions/q27.html
https://www.righteouswarriors.com/questions/q11.html
What about the dignity of the single women who wants a husband and marrying a man with another wife is not a issue. What about the dignity of women who want their own culture and not a Roman forced custom and crushing of their own customs. A romanized white supremacists women’s dignity comes at the cost and lifestyles of other women all over the world. The best thing of course it legal polygyny all over the world which gives more freedom and choice and does not stop the rights of the people seeking a monogamy lifestyle on a legal level.
Was anti polygyny really about the women ?
Female choice The overall incidence of polygyny may be explained as a function of female mate choice. Economists have long argued that polygyny is beneficial to most women if there is substantial inequality among men in terms of resources or other properties that are relevant to reproductive success.29 Simply put, a woman may be better off sharing a resource-rich husband with other women than to monopolize access to a resource-poor husband. In this context, moreover, polygyny not only benefits multiply married women but also monogamously married women in the same population by allowing them to avoid unions with the least desirable males.
SOURCE
The biggest misconception there is about polygamy is that many women don’t want it.
Yet, 25 percent of users of Muslim matchmaking site secondwife.com are reportedly women, while interdenominational site polygamy.com reports that 35 percent of its users are of the fairer sex.
“Every single one” of the women users “made the active choice to sign up, choosing this lifestyle and relationship type themselves,” commented Azad Chaiwala, founder of both these sites.
Mseleku also pointed out how polygamy works well if it’s a choice for both men and women. “Once it becomes a choice, sharing or competition becomes a non-issue.”
SOURCE
Polygamy — Women Want It Too | HuffPost UK (huffingtonpost.co.uk)
Again I say was it really about the women ?
Human trafficking and other underage crimes already exist and are not exclusive to polygyny. My point is that when teachers have sex with students, the particular teachers are taken care off, and the many thousands of other teachers across the U.S.A. are not banned from work..lets use this same tried and true fair logic when dealing with polygyny. Polygyny around the world existed before so where is the great evil ? What’s evil is That being said OLD STATS SHOW a leading cause of family breakups is infidelity (59.6%) due to Roman catholic / American laws not to mention many other problems.
FYI, present day underage marriage was legal in America at some point when polygyny was not legal. Was anti polygyny really about the Females?
“The minimum marriage age was 12 years for females and 14 years for males under English civil law that applied until 1753. By default, these provisions became the minimum marriage ages in colonial America. English common law inherited from the British remained in force in America unless and until a specific state enacted a law to replace it. In the United States, as in most developed countries, age restrictions have been revised upward so that they were, as at August, 2010, between 15 and 21 years”
We know the romanized white supremacists have a hard time accepting of other people and culture and pushing that into laws is no difference. Anti polygyny laws are not here to stay and will be removed. Plus if they claim Jesus as their leader how will they go to meet Him and say, Jesus I helped stop polygyny which God allows. Folks God will stick up for the pro polygyny folks and take their side. Having 1 wife is fine and no one is saying you have to have more than 1 wife, the issue is stopping people from having more than 1 which God clearly allows. I am sure Jesus Christ the human man body knew of it and yet never rebuked it and called it out as evil. Why because human body Jesus is God in flesh and God gave polygyny laws to Moses and before Moses the men who were engaging in polygyny were not rebuked and called out as being in the wrong for it by any prophet and not any new testament teaching rebukes it.
World history shows Rome, you know the same culture and people that helped kill a innocent man name Jesus with the death penalty stopped polygyny with laws it was never stopped by the bible. The Rome-European movement across the world had its hand in it, American, Australia, UK and all of them romanized places. They also had a hand in stopping it in places they did their colonization and take over.
Current America with the “In God We Trust” slogan, do they ? Germany also had the Gott mit uns (‘God with us’) slogan and then proceeded to kill many in genocide. Well if you keep that slogan then you may as well trust God’s choice on allowing pro polygyny. And no people man’s way of anti polygyny is not better it leads to women in combative actions over 1 man when they both could marry him. It leads to relationship breakups over another women, it leads to family’s and children suffering because of breakups. Yes folks God knows best not the romanized anti polygyny white supremacists man. If they believe in God as the all knowing and full of wisdom creator, and they claim Jesus then they may as well keep His allowing pro polygyny way.
Again though it depends on which God/god they trust in, you know them by their fruits. Is it the god of this world who comes to steal, kill and destroy or the creator of life ? You know folks the god of this world has a hand in destroying relationship and family. Could it be easy to say that anti polygyny laws are from that god working the hands of men ? Well if they do not come from the unchanging creator God of the bible then ask yourself who is left ? Perhaps God’s way in the bible was a better way to have equality and even the balance and included freedom. And no folks every man on earth does not want or have more than 1 wife…just look at polygyny legal places.
False prophets, false teachers, false churches, lawmakers and others in official positions. These are individuals working the work of Satan. Under a cover, think spy’s and impersonators. Some of these folk are blinded to facts and believe they are being used by God… And some know the facts and still keep it going.
I would argue If you took the Religious Catholic/Christian Anti Polygyny movement out of history would you be pro polygyny today ?
Utah has made beginning baby steps with decriminalization of polygyny.
“infidelity is a result of one’s lack of self control”
Objection 1
“God allowed men to have multiple wives in the Old Testament (OT) because men were weak with lust and had no power from Holy Spirit. Now that the Holy Spirit has come, men are no longer allowed to have multiple wives.” Answer: this objection assumes a man’s desire for another wife is forbidden but this is not true. His desire is a biological drive. If the claim about lust were true, there’d be Bible verses commanding monogamy for Believers under the New Covenant (NT), but nothing is mentioned.
a lust is any evil or forbidden desire. For example, the desire to have another man’s wife. Wives belong to their husbands for life (1 Corinthians 7:39). Therefore, it’s a sin to have sex with or marry another man’s wife while he’s still alive.
The KJV dictionary defines desire this way:
An emotion or excitement of the mind, directed to the attainment or possession of an object from which pleasure, sensual, intellectual or spiritual, is expected; a passion excited by the love of an object, or uneasiness at the want of it, and directed to its attainment or possession. Desire is a wish to possess some gratification or source of happiness which is supposed to be obtainable. A wish may exist for something that is or is not attainable.
Desire, when directed solely to sensual enjoyment, differs little from appetite. In other languages, desire is expressed by longing or reaching toward, and when it is ardent or intense, it approaches to longing, but the word in English usually expresses less than longing.
So, a desire for a good thing is acceptable, but a desire for something forbidden is called a lust. Here’s some examples:
The thing to remember is: good desires are okay, forbidden or evil desires are not.
SOURCE
https://www.letspleasegod.com/god-polygamy-hebrew-israelites-christians/
No evidence that polygynous marriage is a harmful cultural practice in northern Tanzania
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1507151112
David W. Lawson david.lawson@lshtm.ac.uk, Susan James, Esther Ngadaya, +2, and Monique Borgerhoff MulderAuthors Info & Affiliations
Edited by James Holland Jones, Stanford University, Stanford, CA, and accepted by the Editorial Board September 23, 2015 (received for review May 14, 2015)
October 26, 2015
112 (45) 13827-13832
https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.1507151112
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